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May 14, 2008

Windows and solar hot-air collectors are about equal in collection capability. In fact, a window that is designed for collection should beat a dedicated collector, but a lot of windows will not do so well (see note below). I think the choice boils down to which works best for your situation. To me, the pros and cons would go something like this.

Window Pros:

*Collect heat and provide daylight

*Views

*Nice bright interior

*With good thermal mass they can carry some heat into the evening.

 

Window Cons:

* High heat loss at night and on cloudy days (can be somewhat overcome with thermal shades).

* Can be undesirable in some situations (glare, loss of privacy, etc.)

* Can lead to overheating — you need overhangs for summer, and a house with adequate thermal mass to absorb the heat.

* Your south wall has to have a good view of the south sky.

* You have to have a floor plan in which it makes sense to have windows in the south wall.

* Harder to distribute the heat into the parts of the house where you want it.

This is a fairly large list of cons, but that's what passive solar house design is all about. If you do it all right, the windows both collect heat and make the house a bright and pleasant place to be. In a retrofit situation, you just have to be lucky.

 

Collector Pros:

* More flexible in location — south roof, south wall, even detached from house — easier to find a location with good sun.

* Can get the heat from the collector to where you want it more easily.

* It is possible to store heat for later use (at the cost of more complexity).

* No night heat loss problem.

 

Collector Cons:

* You lose the daylight and the views.

* Often have controls and fans that must be maintained.

* Typically they don't look as good as windows.

 

It’s not really an either or — you can (and should) use both on the same house. You can even mix them on the same south wall. I did not put cost down as either a pro or con for either, since it can vary so much depending on how you go about it.

 

Note: All things being equal, you would expect windows to be more efficient collectors. The sun that penetrates the window gets absorbed deep in the room. Even if some of the sunlight is reflected off room surfaces, very little gets back out the window. Since there is no hot absorber just inside the glazing, the heat loss from the window is lower that it would be from a collector. So, in the ideal window case, you have efficient absorption coupled with low heat loss — a good combination.

The things that are often not "equal" are that glass in windows is not generally designed for high transmission, and if it is not it will absorb a lot of light before the light can get into the room. A good clear, non low-e, double glazed window might transmit 70 percent of the light incident on it, but this can be (and typically is) a lot less depending on type of glass and low-e coatings.

— Gary Reysa 

2 Comments

  • anachronism 8/6/2008 10:09:53 AM

    Response to Questions on the value of PASSIVE HEATING AND COOLING " Reference to the question of (I quote) "On the other hand, if it does not save money, and the cost is excessive, it will not make good business sense to invest in." "I follow up with reality for 25 years" "Silly to spend $250 to save $28,000 is really fool hardy?" I guess 112% yearly return for 25 years stinks?
    The added cost to create a passive heating system in my first project in 1983-4 was the cost of 40' of 8" sheet metal pipe and a $35 remote sensor to activate a switch to turn on a 1/3 HP electric motor. TOTAL cost, including labor was $250 in 1984 dollars. Twenty four years of savings figure's out to $28,000 at $100 per month saved. So when you spend $250 to save $28,000 it is not worth the effort?
    To create the combined passive solar heat and the passive solar cooling in Vancouver cost $400 for two self-closing dampers, two 12 volt operated roof vent units with covers. The original investment of $400 saved $200 a month for 228 months saved $45,000. So the effort would seem to pay for itself. The saving accrued to the investment is only 11,250 percent for the 228 months? I guess you can find this rate of return at your local bank every day in Canada?
    The savings in Burlington only amounted to 14000% in 24 years. Now this shows that the systems in use in the five projects can actually return your investment a "Little" better than your local bank return of "4%" per year?? JULY 28,2008

    To anybody who wants "free Cooling", simply use the principle of cooling your "Residence" at night. It occurs nightly and “nobody” uses it! This "free air cooling" is used in Vancouver, since 1989 with an initial $400 investment and we have enjoyed "Free climate cooling" for 19 years.
    Forget the expense of "Mylar and reflective plastic" that obscures

  • jaslene 5/15/2008 7:19:58 PM

    Has anyone here ever considered switching from regular oil heat
    to bioheat? Has anyone here ever heard of it? I think it's an
    amazing alternative to regular oil heat, because it's clean burning
    and uses a b5 blend of vegetable and plant oils. I think everyone
    who wants to live in a greener household should seriously consider
    making the switch! It's easy, and no extra costs are involved. Just
    go on to http://oilheatamerica.com/index.mv?screen=bioheat and read
    more about it!

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